PDA

View Full Version : accident


angrymom
07-26-2006, 08:34 PM
My husband and I have a membership to an R.V. park. You buy the lot and R.V. then pay a membership yearly. My daughter took a friend with her over the weekend. There was an accident and her friend was hurt. When I got to the accident, I walked up to the scene. I had not said a work yet. I was calm at this time. The director of the park was there ( I did not know it was him at the time). He never identified himself. He Grabed my wrist, and said "you have to let them do what they need to do". Mind you, I had not said a word yet, I was very calm at this time. The girl was concious and talking. I did need to get some information so that I could call her parents and let them know what hospital and such. My question is What right does this man have to grab my wrist and continue to hold onto it? I finally gave him a dirty look and pulled my arm away and walked around the other side of the accident. He followed me everywhere I went even when I was talking to the state policeman. I promise this man had no reason to grab me. He at the very least should at some point have told me who he was. My daughter said before i got there he hadgrabed her and told her she had to leave. She told him no. If she had she would have been accused of leaving an accident. This all happend on a golf cart. My daughter is 14. He told my husband that, he was trying to keep me from interfering. I could understand that if i was, but even then not buy phsically grabbing me. He also went on to tell my husband that "He should control his family". I won't be doing anything about this, I don't feel it would do any good. He told my husband if I had alligations to bring it up to the board of directorys. I don't like to be touched by people I don't know and I don't feel he had the right to grab my wrist and continue to hold it. Has he done anything legally wrong? Thanks for listening to my ramblel. I would appreciate any info I could get

Missy
07-26-2006, 08:48 PM
Did you clearly state to him "Let go of me, and do not touch me again" instead of just giving him a dirty look? He followed you over to the state policeman while you were talking - why didn't you say anything to the man then, with the police officer standing right there?

I'm not a cop, but it doesn't sound like he did anything illegal to me. He's the park director and was at the scene of an accident on the property he is in charge of. As far as touching you, it doesn't sound like it was in an aggressive way to intend harm. Guess we'll have to hear from some officers.

zap
07-26-2006, 09:20 PM
Well, while he would not have broken the law in Ohio...he was treading on thin ice if you wanted to push it.

It really sounds to me like this was his chance to play cop.

I learned long ago that some people will jump at any excuse to be something they can never be in real life. As a building contractor I ran into this syndrom often. Some guy working in a factory watching Bob Vila on Saturday mornings hires you to do a job only saying that he wants the job done 'right'.

Next thing you know...he is nit picking EVERYthing you do at the end of EVERY day. It is obvious he has no clue what he is talking about and you try to be nice until the day he says "You're FIRED!". (That is when you inform him that you have a binding legal contract and you OWN the project until it's completed, and bill him for all the additional headache and time)

All of this because he wanted to be able to fire someone at some point during his miserable life.

Your guy just wanted to be able to at some point in his miserable life....tell someone he thought he could get the better of "move along...nothing to see here"

:)

kcso
07-27-2006, 04:34 AM
My question is What right does this man have to grab my wrist and continue to hold onto it? Has he done anything legally wrong?
No, he does not have the right to grab your wrist. It could be considered as a simple assault but I doubt anybody would accept charges on that. He was probably more guilty of being an annoyance at best. If it were me, I would make a complaint to the board of directors. I would not however, demand that something be done about it. Making them aware of the problem should be suffice.

Just a suggestion, if you ever are in the unfortunate position to arrive on an accident scene involving friends or family, don't try to approach any of the victims or witnesses until the officer in charge allows you to do so. These types of scenes can become confusing so, for obvious reasons, we like to maintain some type of control over what is happening.

angrymom
07-27-2006, 06:27 PM
I didn't do anything at the time, because I honestly didn't think he ment to harm me, and i didn't want to come off as being some irrate paniced women. I didn't want to take the focuse away from the little girl who was hurt. When I arrived at the scene the police had not arrived yet. Neither had the ambulance. The park has rangers that are trained for medical emergancys and they were taking care of the little girl. I did think of saying something to him lol, many things. There were many things racing through my mind at the time. such as what info do I need for her parents. Are they taking her to the hospital. What hospital if they do. I know his grabbing my wrist is sort of a trivial thing. I just don't like people I don't know touching me and it wasn't neccassary. He also didn't let go, until I pulled away. Thank you for the imput. I do appreciate it.

mcsap
07-29-2006, 05:24 AM
I suppose he felt that because this accident occurred on private property he could " control" the scene. Even though he technically may have some justification in that area , to actually do so when a parent of someone involved shows up is NOT a good idea. Don't get between a parent and their kid who was in a crash or who is injured unless 100% necessary.

Beyond that, if the police/medics on scene thought you were interfering, they would tell you to back off. I have rarely ever had to deal with unruly people at a crash scene but I have done so and they were told to remove themselves from my crime scene ( yes a crash is actually a crime scene) or spend some quality time in the backseat of my cruiser. He also may have been concerned about his liability as the property owner and wanted to limit those who saw what happened.

Regardless, his actions were uncalled for and I would have advised to tell him to LET GO OF MY WRIST NOW ! And at almost the same time I would have yanked it free from his grip.

zap
07-29-2006, 09:33 AM
...I'd have leveled him...but that's just me *bigsillygrin*

No justice in Arizona
08-06-2006, 08:06 AM
Yes corporal. My thoughts exactly!.

I think he was in the wrong. completely wrong to grab your hand or wrists. No one has the right to touch any one especially someone they do not know well.
I agree with the person who said you should have spoke up. After all, it's your daughter WITH ANOTHER PERSON WHOM WAS INJURED and you have the responsibly (i believe) to make sure that the girl is getting the care she needs and to get information so you can pass this information on to her parents.
Thats the most important thing. I feel he was wrong.....

No justice in Arizona
08-06-2006, 08:08 AM
I suppose he felt that because this accident occurred on private property he could " control" the scene. Even though he technically may have some justification in that area , to actually do so when a parent of someone involved shows up is NOT a good idea. Don't get between a parent and their kid who was in a crash or who is injured unless 100% necessary.

Beyond that, if the police/medics on scene thought you were interfering, they would tell you to back off. I have rarely ever had to deal with unruly people at a crash scene but I have done so and they were told to remove themselves from my crime scene ( yes a crash is actually a crime scene) or spend some quality time in the backseat of my cruiser. He also may have been concerned about his liability as the property owner and wanted to limit those who saw what happened.

Regardless, his actions were uncalled for and I would have advised to tell him to LET GO OF MY WRIST NOW ! And at almost the same time I would have yanked it free from his grip.

I like your name: cuffin and stuffin

now thats cute!

county
08-09-2006, 07:40 PM
I didn't do anything at the time, because I honestly didn't think he ment to harm me, and i didn't want to come off as being some irrate paniced women. I didn't want to take the focuse away from the little girl who was hurt. When I arrived at the scene the police had not arrived yet. Neither had the ambulance. The park has rangers that are trained for medical emergancys and they were taking care of the little girl. I did think of saying something to him lol, many things. There were many things racing through my mind at the time. such as what info do I need for her parents. Are they taking her to the hospital. What hospital if they do. I know his grabbing my wrist is sort of a trivial thing. I just don't like people I don't know touching me and it wasn't neccassary. He also didn't let go, until I pulled away. Thank you for the imput. I do appreciate it.

first, i was going to say that it technically could have been considered a 2nd degree assault here in MD, because you did not give him permission to touch you in that matter, and some force, no matter how slight, was imposed against you.

then...you just answered your own question. for it to be considered an assault, there has to be some intent. if even you, who would be considered the victim, did not feel his intentions were to harm you, then no assault occurred. again, just speaking for MD.